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operations were provided by Kingston University, and many of the student crew joined in the debate. By the end of the day it was clear that there was no resolution to this debate, which will run and run. television, radio, animation, visual effects, games, fashion, textiles, publishing, advertising and marketing communications. A second major strand to the debate was the value of Creative Skillset and its accreditation of some degree courses. Indeed, there was considerable debate about the nature of Creative Skillset, even before we got to its contribution to the debate. Perhaps its most visible role in television training at the moment is in accrediting courses at universities. According to Dinah Caine, the Creative Skillset CEO, the body has “moved away from recognising institutions as a whole to accrediting individual courses. Out of the 4000 courses which are relevant to the creative industries, we have accredited 166, of which 68 are relevant to television.” To be clear, Creative Skillset is an independent UK organisation “owned and managed by the creative industries”. Its role is to identify and tackle the skills and productivity needs of these industries throughout the UK. That means it is active in film, A comment from the floor – from a university which had attained accreditation – was that achieving it “is bloody tough, because it is evidence- based. One of the factors that is tracked is the success rate of getting jobs in the industry, so it takes time.” Accreditation • • • Victor Glynn, now a freelance producer, is one of the evaluators which Skillset calls upon to look at courses. “We go out as a team to talk to course leaders and to students, to give our input on what we think would be valuable to an employer,” he said. Creative Skillset is not the only body offering accreditation. The technical body BKSTS also offers the service, and at present its mark has been awarded to 18 graduate and post- graduate courses. “There is an intrinsic value of an external control for accreditation,” said BKSTS’s Mark Trompeteler. “But increasingly we are of the opinion that the value is in the relationship between the accreditors and the students and college, which should last far longer than the simple accreditation. We continue to work with student